I'm working with two other partners to get a SaaS startup off the ground. I worked on this thing slowly, mostly on my own, for about two years before approaching my partners. As a background, I knew both of them personally before this started, although both were more of acquaintances than best friends.
Today, the breakdown of work is like this:
We're at the point where we're dividing up company equity. We have a vesting schedule in place, which is meant to protect us from someone walking away after six months. But my question is:
What is a reasonable amount of equity to retain for myself?
If these guys get something like 35/15, that leaves 50% for myself. Is that too low? I feel that I'd like to give up a larger percentage if the work is split equally. They've started to take on more and more work, which is encouraging, and expected. Would going below 51% not be smart?
I feel that if I had a better sense of what I deserve, it'd be easier to offer them percentages.
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Since you started this two years ago and alone, I believe going below 51% is not a good choice. When tough decisions come and they both disagree with you, the stock distribution will not help settling the issue.
Next time you start a business you've been cooking yourself, remember to approach your potential partners with a specific proposal in mind. A simple example would be "I'm looking for a partner that takes care of X and Y, getting 20% now plus another 10% along two years.".
On your specific situation, I'd propose 55% for you, 25% for partner A, 10% for partner B, 10% of stock pool that can go to B according to specific goals, and for retaining key technical people in the future.
Going further into this, I believe your partner B might not be needed for now. If he's not a partner yet, maybe you can offer 1% as an advisor and leave the partnership discussion for the future.
Get in touch if you think of a good alternative for this, I like to exercise different scenarios.
Best,
-- Yuri
Founder @aceleradora
I would ignore your $5k investment. It's not that much money and clouds the issue a bit.
A lot depends on what degree of investment/sacrifice people are going to make. If one or the other is working at far below market value, I'd factor that in. I like to think not about how much equity I want to retain, but how much equity it will take to attract the people I want (whether as partners or employees).
I worry a bit about the prospective founder that is not working as hard or doesn't seem as fully committed. Startups are a tough business and even deep industry expertise won't amount to much if someone's not emotionally invested and spending a lot of time.
If I were you, I'd have a direct and candid discussion with them and see if you can come up with some semi-objective way to figure this out. Just the exercise of having this conversation is usually healthy.
And, though it's hard to put concrete numbers out there, I'd lean towards something more like 60/25/15 or 60/20/20.
As the original idea guy, you should clearly get more. You also want to maintain control over the idea until you need to get outside investment. I also assume that you are the CEO of this venture, since it was your original idea and that warrants more as well.
Take a look at it this way. You have spent two years getting it off the ground, it was your idea. You put your own money into it. You worked at it and got it to a point where two people want to make it happen with you. That's a big deal.
These two partners just started and are contributing at various levels. That should be rewarded as well but in proportion to your investment of money and time.
My gut says 60%, 30% and 10% (for founders stock), without knowing anything about your company. Remember, when you take additional investment, your control over the company will diminish as you give up more equity. So having a significant amount of shares up front does allow you to maintain some control.
As for the stock pool for later rounds, that's a different story. Usually, employees split between a pool of roughly 20% of the round. The splits really depend on the role each one plays.
You need to remember that if you look for outside funding, the percentage of the company that you own will go down each time someone puts money into the business. So if you own 51% today, and then someone invests $100,000 in your business, you may be down to 25%, putting you in a very weak position for future negotiations, never mind your total inability to make executive decisions. You need to think about this now (which you obviously are).
I would say that you should not give up more than 40% at most (retaining 60%), and ideally, you should hold on to more. Not knowing the specifics of what your business is makes it difficult to judge what would be fair, but to give you an example, I've made a deal where someone similar to your Partner A was given 15% vested, and the person similar to Partner B was given 5% vested, with an additional 5% if his role picked up and he rose to the challenge.
To think about it another way, what is your company worth today, and how much value does each partner bring into the deal? That should help you figure out the numbers.
One last point - there is one more way for you to retain control, and that's via seats on the Board of Directors (you are incorporated, right?). You can specifically state that there are 5 seats on the board, and you hold 4 of them, with Partner A holding the remainder. Or some other arrangement. But you can ensure this way that you retain your ability to make decisions far beyond what your actual ownership would entitle you to. If I recall correctly, Mark Zuckerberg of Facebook only owns something like 5% of the site, but he holds the majority of the board seats, giving him control of how the site develops.
Something to consider: run the numbers in terms of what % you want to own through future rounds of funding. Here's a nice tool to help you out with that process.
You should be having this discussion with them, not us. There really isn't enough information to go on.
Some comments and questions:
You all need to vest on the same schedule.
Are you all doing this part time?
$5k is not much money. (especially over 2 years)
2 years is a long time. If you haven't gotten anything releasable in that time I question the value of those years. (especially as it relates to your equity compared to theirs)
I hesitate to give any suggestions based on the limited information, but if I were in your shoes I would talk to them about your concerns and offer the following:
EDIT
You really need to agree among yourselves. Using this board as "proof" or other datapoint for your partners is not really a good way to force an agreement.
Again, with all of you part time and if you say after 2 years and still lots more work is to be done, what real value was the prior work? You have to be honest about it. If it really represents a majority, then they should be willing to agree.
I'd approach this a different way. If you feel like these 2 others are "true" partners, then I'd want to send a strong signal that we're all in this together. I'd consider going 1/3, 1/3, 1/3 which will send a real message that they are "real" partners. Your vesting should be 2 years ahead of your partners, however. So you "currently" own more. If they're not "true" partners, then just realize that a) that's the signal you're sending to them, and b) you're in charge, so you can set the percentages to whatever you think is right.
I'd add that if they turn out to not be "true" partners, putting in equal work over time, etc then you should not continue vesting them (e.g fire them). So make that clear up front.
Two things to remember when making the decision on percentage split:
1- Incentives drive behavior. If you own the vast majority of shares you will by default be the most motivated to succeed…but it plays both ways...don't expect your co-founders to necessarily go-to-the-wall when hard times arrive…it might not be worth it to them financially to put in all on the line for a small percentage of a company.
2- Times change. You may have made the most sacrifice to date and should own the most equity today....but look 3 years down the road...will the state of the company "really" be the result of those 3 years of working together or of your current work to-date. Vesting will help manage this, but I'd make sure there's a big enough piece of the pie down the road for all co-founders to be sufficiently motivated.
I was lucky with one of my startups...it was a perfect 50/50 split and never had outside investors...the commitment and sacrifice was equally shared...and the exit was equally shared. It worked beautifully.
There are lots of good answers and suggestions here, so I won't rehash them all. However, I would like to offer three specific tidbits to consider that I don't think that anybody specifically stated yet:
The book Engineering Your Startup: A Guide for the High-Tech Entrepreneur covers these topics really well and has many good suggestions on the mechanisms and approaches for equity shares and compensation, etc.
While I am not a big fan of using the term "Opportunity Cost" in your case the your opportunity cost over the last two years should be factored in as your investment into the idea/the product. For example if you think the time/value of developing the product for someone else over the last two years could have generated an income of 50-100K, then considering the fact that you have put in that time into the business, you have indirectly made an investment into the business for that amount.
Assuming a reasonable cost would have been $2500 per month over the last 24 months that would be $60k + your $5k investment. Hence putting your current investment at $65K.
While this opens up a lot of more questions, clubbing it with the other advise given, it is certainly justified for you to retain at least 51% of the equity.
Salman Khan has some great tutorial videos on his web page regarding Venture Capital and Capital Markets. Watching these videos gave me better intuition on the affect of rounds of raising capital has on a company’s ownership structure. These are some of the concepts the above answers are discussing.
http://www.khanacademy.org/